These drug cartel enforcer are animals but they are also magnificently smart. 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Murders and crimes like such are committed for punishment, and the person being punished must be made aware of this fact. After their searches turned up empty, the family reported the girls as missing to the Evansdale Police Department approximately two and a half hours after the initial bike ride. Her desire to have fun within those loving relationships was seen while going to church, sharing devotions with her parents in the morning and card games with her grandmother in the afternoons. Theres probably more Im missing.I just wish the Evansdale girls got a 1/3 of the publicity as Delphi. State investigators conducted a painstaking examination of potential similarities between the kidnapping and murder of Dayton teenager Kathlynn Shepard and missing person cases in Iowa, and in June 2013 a state official announced that potential connections were already being analyzed between Shepards murder and the Cook and Collins slayings. I know you surely didnt ask for any of this, If you could turn back time just for 1 min maybe it would change something? What kind of closer? Ive been thinking of them often latley as summer is now here and how heartbreaking it is that their family still does not have any more answers and that justice has not been brought. Iowa Cold Cases On May 14, 2014, police ruled out Michael Klunder as a suspect in the cousins 2012 death. Both occurred on the 13th. I also want to get the Early Bird Books newsletter featuring great deals on ebooks. The word is probably as in you probably did not make it past eigth grade. I was a kid at the time, and I remember going to school the day they found their bodies. He called Libby's cellphone, but there was no answer. The news that the bodies had been found hit them hard. Possible connection between Abby and Libby and Elizabeth and Lyric? Gilbert Drive in Evansdale and it was his mom he lived with. Her daughter is still very nave and even now doesnt grasp the ramifications of some of these acts. They believe that the offender may be a member of the Evansdale community, and that its not likely they are transient or just an individual that was passing through. There are still no updates or leads that have led to any arrests. There are alot of good intended people but none of us really know and God forbid we ever do know what its like to have one of our own children taken in such evil and cruel way. I will keep up on this until he, she or they get caught. Notoriety. This July 13th will be the ninth anniversary of the girls disappearance. I would bet anything it had to do with the drugs n ratting ppl out.makes me sick to my stomach because I was down by the lake twice that day within that time frame.. Steve, am sure you have done so did you see anything or remember anything? Her daughter said R. Fitz attempted to get her to kiss his .., but more alarming, his wife was there and she laughed and said, Russell, put that thing away and made some comment that he needed to quit doing that stuff. Abby-Libby Lyric-Elizabeth RayHanish Idaho-Case FloraGirls Karena Athena Suzanne #loveandlight Remembering. Or those girls saw something they shouldnt have. Was it the result of a deadly drug dispute, or the work of a serial killer? Shes tells me her friend in Evansdale gave her the number of a good cardiologist in Waterloo. Do you have an idea how ignorant you sound. I thought they were looking at that guy from Northwood IA for this. They contacted law enforcement officials at 12:45 p.m. On Thursday, December 6, 2012, Chief Deputy Rick Abben with the Black Hawk County Sheriffs Office held a press conference to announce officials were confident the bodies were those of Lyric and Elizabeth. I also want to get Early Bird Books newsletter featuring book deals, recommendations, and giveaways. I dont know what model his car was just that it was at the crushers but someone smelled a rotten odor but it was cleared by fbi they didnt go out and say ( we dont know how thy were killed ? I wrote this after the girls were found .Dec 2012 Im just uneducated white trash but that dont make me all bad. So one of them says hey ur mom/dads in trouble come w us & they did. The FBI knows. He has lived in Evansdale and other towns in that general area. Where did it end up where you said it smelled? The victims were all shot and buried in shallow graves around the Mason City area. Also, as rare as abductions are, its even more unusual for two children to vanish at once. If so, gun enthusiasts should be looked at, in addition to hunters. 2 young girls, white truck. I always thought it was someone working for the DOT. Spewing awesomeness all over the web! It breaks my heart to say, but I think a lucky break is the only way that case will ever be solved. Abby & Libby were killed on February 13, 2017 2/13/17 21317 The dates being mirror images of each other really hit home for me because I have two sons who are 21 years apart and, despite there being 365 days in a year, the older one was born March 28th - 328 - and the younger one was born August 23rd - 823. And this serial killer was able to orchestrate this twice. No one could imagine that these two little girls would never return home, and even though their bicycles and belongings were found within hours of them being reported missing, it would take months to find their bodies and lay them to rest. We thought if youre riding your bike or walking, its a nice way to memorialize people that you dont want to forget.. Im surprised someone hasnt let it slipped as to who did this. They were able to confirm a bunch of things that show he wasnt in the Evansdale area at the time. Many of my friends and I often engage in conversations about local crimes, cold cases, and unsolved murders. Most likely a team of two, but sexual predators, especially child sex offenders, tend to commit crimes alone. In my opinion, if you follow criminal profiling, I dont see he could possibility be eliminated!!! Poor girls :(. Talk to the car crusher. Nothing adds up about thier stories and the behavior or the police department was either shady as a whole and Kent figured it out. Hardly anyone would be walking around that area much until the start of the deer hunting season. They were near Meyers Lake, which is where locals fished, swam, and boated. I think they found that he was innocent on this one. In a press conference held at the Evansdale City Hall on Tuesday, Feb. 3, 2015, Evansdale Chief of Police Kent Smock said authorities were focusing their efforts on anyone who might be familiar with the remote Bremer County woodland where Lyric and Elizabeth were found in December 2012. I believe both cases are from the SK. Please take a look at this Doctoroz.crimeHunters. Its better to say something than nothing at all. Smock made a plea to the public to identify anyone they believe is familiar with the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area. Its very obvious that this horrible tragic event took place because of the heavy drug use and selling of drugs within the families. Its such a strange coincidence last weekend my mother in law gave me the number for a good heart doctor here in the Cedar Falls/Waterloo area. Thats where he stayed or lived with his mom or grandmother and the girls rode their bikes right past his house on Gilbert Street and all around there. Both crimes occurred less than a mile from a four- lane highway. On May 14, 2014, DCI Special Agent Mike Roehrkasse with the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation said the DCI is pretty confident Michael Klunder is no longer a person of interest in the [Cook/Collins] case. LASCIVIOUS ACTS W/CHILD-INFLICT PAIN OR DISCOMFORT (FELD). I may just tell her to thank her friend for the docs number, and oh by the way how is she doing. or that they both lived with their grandparents? Evansdale is not a rural town. Investigators have yet to share publicly how Lyric and Elizabeth died. From my understanding, Michael Klunders first crimes did in fact happen in the Waverly area. Im not from that area and wonder if the park is viewable from a passing thoroughfare road. 7.- wrong. theres an awful lot of them though. MO and signature are both different and cases arent geographically linked. Elizabeth Collins (left) and Lyric Cook (right) were found dead in Iowa in 2012. Drew Collins , I will Apologize To you Sir , For The Awful and rude Comments being made about you and your Family . I dont know if theres more bad then good in the world but I do know there is good. Which would mean he was somewhat familiar with the area. the similarities are super weird but some of them are hard to come up with an explanation for. I would like to try and track the path they took TO the park as I feel someone watched them and followed them in there, waiting til they got to this remoter area. The Evansdale victims weren't found for 5 months, with more than a month of hot weather, the decomposition would have been very rapid. He supposedly had two previous arrests involving children. ?about that time. Thats my theory. The Morrissey family has been the subject of intense scrutiny, particularly Lyrics father, Dan. Care to mention? If you analyse any two cases for long enough youll find similarities between them. They are two totally different set of circumstances. Investigators are hesitant to rule out linkage. And considering your past,maybe you cant pass one. In Delphi, it appears that the posed bodies were meant to be discovered, unless, of course, the killer had intended to take them to another location, but was forced to leave/kill them where they were found. They all remain in the Evansdale/Independence area. Despite the connections, Indiana State Police dont believe both cases are tied to each other. Want more chills and thrills? My thinking is maybe someone saw them from a road and it was a crime of opportunity. Someone wanting money would keep them alive or the perception that they were alive in an effort to collect. But in my experience, families may share some behaviors, learned or otherwise. Here is the tragic story of the Evansdale murders. I follow Iowa Cold Cases on facebook. In fact she called us in Colorado the night the girls went missing. Thats why i think the drug dealers have something to do with it. State police say more audio from libby german's cell phone was played for the victims' Investigators have explained that the details of the crime scene indicate a signature, which can help them identify the killer. And found by hunters, so obviously people hunt there. Kent did it. XXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 Its very concerning to us when you have an individual like that that has the access that he does through his employment at the time to basically roam the state or roam the Midwest, Mitch Mortvedt, Head of Field Operations for the Iowa DCI, said of Altmayer. Drew- so sorry that on top of losing your daughter you have to deal with crap like this. The city also declared July 13 as Lyric and Elizabeth Day.. Even though Dan Morrissey was involved with meth, my guess would be that if the murders were related to drugs, we would absolutely know. I live in a town of 500. I pray there is one some day. In no way do i feel attacked by you making a comment, thats why we are members of this site, to bring minds together. Get a life. I think it would be great if people stopped attacking the family members for their mistakes and drug use. You sent December 7, 2020 to XXXXXXX. Im not pushing this off on Drugs because its the path of least resistance, Im stating known and proven facts. Here's my experience. Some believe that Dans criminal past was the reason the girls were abducted. Mr. Collins lost his daughter, his niece, his marriage, his peace of mind and much more. The find didnt turn up anything new, but the video did confirm the official police timeline. Have you called him to ask why? The killers are there ! According to the USA Today story, Meyers said authorities were taking a two-pronged approach to any comparisons: laboratory analysis of forensic evidence, and investigative work that could pinpoint, among other things, where Klunder may have been when other people went missing. Im sorry Im still sending prayers. Why was he fired. There is more out there! The street meets up with the bike trail where the girls bikes were found. You know what needs to be focused on? I like the updates. While we were sitting on the lawn waiting for instructions on the search parties. Evansdale crime 7-13-2012, Delphi 2-13-2017 perfect reversal of each other. Shes 85 years old and she lives in nearby Shell Rock, Iowa. They were taken to an area that is very remote. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Both sets of girls were found 50 ft from a slow moving stream. She was a student at Poyner Elementary School and was a bubbly little person, with the best smile, who loved what life had to give and all it had to offer. My family refused to tell me because they didnt want to scare me deluded and risky Unfortunately, nothing turned up as to what could have happened to Elizabeth and Lyric. I have a feeling that these 2 girls knew their murderer. I dont know lyric or Liz or their families personaly but they have changed me, and I will never forget them Please no grammar police. It doesnt have a dedicated area for target shooting, but its of note that the girls were discovered on the first day of deer hunting season. Sorry if this has been mentioned before but its my first post after catching up on the Iowa murders but just watching LordanArt's latest Elizabeth and Lyric video and wondered about a possible connection between the Iowa deaths of 13th July and Delphi's 13th February dates? XXXX sent December 7, 2020 Shame on you bitch if I ever see you in public I will punch you in the face like you were a dude . I loved her probably as much as her parents did. KCCI said court records show Altmayer was working as a traveling automobile damage field inspector. There were two sets of footprints from Huntbachs rental to their house next door. the police chief he replaced remains on duty but, stepped down from chief or even assistant chief to be a regular patrol officer. Agree that LE in Iowa were much more effective. Dug here (Doug?). Do it for those girls. Lyric was older than her little cousin and also very big for her age at 160 pounds. Prior to that it had been since before 1970 that a chief of police had been let go in evansdale. Chillingly, the dates both sets of girls vanished, 7-13-12 and 2-13-17, are anagrams of each other. Download the Reward Poster (Courtesy WCF Courier). B Boxer This was in no way set up as if to send a message as dealers and the mafia do. He was 27, she was 2. The Delphi, Indiana murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German are mentioned throughout the. He was released from custody following Lyrics disappearance so he could be with his family. Then another cop. Morel Mushroom season ends around the end of May. Here are just a couple of charges Chad Fitz has had in the past. How can someone live with themselves day to day? Its not a subject I want to talk about with my frail mother in law. Graveside services for Elizabeth were held at Waterloo Memorial Park Cemetery on Saturday, May 4, 2013, in Waterloo. Does Altmayer arrest have any connection to missing cousins case? Two teenagers Abby and Libby, ages 13 and 14 years, respectively, from Delphi, Indiana, died in February 2017. Im not sure if this is in any way related, but the similarities struck me. A lot of the similarities are more likely the result of circumstance. NEW: attorneys for Richard Allen the man charged with the Delphi murders of Abby Williams and Libby German file a new motion. No. I think it was somebody that knew the girls. What day were the girls found? Join Facebook to connect with Abby Libby and others you may know. Even if I am proven wrong by an arrest of a drug cartel member, other children and adults in this state have been spotted, stalked, killed, and dumped. The reverse date thing is rather creepy Ill give you that. I was hoping that they would be found alive. A very similar case just happened here: https://www.in.gov/isp/delphi.htm, As soon as I heard about the two girls from Indiana I instantly thought of Elizabeth and Lyric case. Tag: how did abby and libby die delphi murders. Both near bridges & roads. please tell me this is /s !!! So we take that into consideration as well and we've investigated that, we've been in contact with Iowa and they've been in contact with us and we've discussed that but nothing else seems to be popping up around the nation that is similar to this but doesn't mean he's gonna kill everybody the same way every time. It is sad that we have turned into a society that tears other people down rather practice, innocent until proven guilty. These murders were a direct result of the parents bad habits. Within yards! So now he leaves that Evansdale house after the murders and moves in with grandma (or mom) AGAIN, now in Readlyn, near the reserve! He was just arrested for child sexual abuse and the victims were similar ages. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. If the lication where the bodies were discovered, couldnt law enforcement pinpoint when the bodies first appeared in that location. Has anyone looked into the Oelwein mayor? I dont believe these girls were killed by a juvenile offender or first-time offender, as the perpetrator took two victims at once, which is very risky. Twisted Tracks; The Murders of Liberty German and Abigail . She was eight years old. And the pairs of girls resemble each other in appearance. I didnt say anything. Later that same day, the girls bikes and Elizabeths purse were found near the corner of Meyers Lake. This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN. This points to stabbing/cutting. I know you have interviewed all the usual suspects, including those named in the Dephi murders, etc. Lyrics parents and Elizabeths father (Mr. Collins on this page sorry for your losses, sir) went into detail about their mistakes, how theyve paid for them, and what theyre doing now to make things better and honor their daughters/nieces memory. Both crimes involved the horrific murders of two young girls who were out together alone, and there has been discussion about how the dates of both disappearances are anagrams of each other, with Elizabeth and Lyric vanishing on 7-13-12, and Abby and Libby going missing on 2-13-17. The girls' bodies were found the following day, approximately half a mile from the bridge. Considering the snatch and grab scenario of young women nowadays youre not far off gramma. I am sure its not Fitz. He wasnt even familiar with the area, and where the girls were found at Seven Bridges Wildlife Area is the kind of place where only locals who grew up in the area go to. She loved singing, riding her bike and playing softball and hockey. get hypnotized. During a press conference that day, police said they believed the person who abducted the cousins was likely local, the Waterloo Cedar Falls Courier reported Aug. 22, 2014. On the other hand, there might be more than one perpetrator. On Friday, January 25, 2013, State Senator Kent Sorenson, R-Milo, championed the idea of reintroducing the death penalty in Iowa. Someone wanting money would threaten or harm the adults who actually owe them money (perhaps by threatening the children, yes). She showed me where Chad Fitzs mom or grandma lived, right by Meyers Lake. 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They started calling friends and family to see if they knew where Elizabeth and Lyric were. Believe me, sometimes the general public knows way more than law enforcement agencies will ever know and to me those people are just as guilty as the killers for keeping that information secret. Thats one of the reasons weve involved, to remember these kids.. Blog Young teens Abby Williams and Liberty German went out to enjoy a walk on a local trail and disappeared. Why did the brother vanish so quickly after the girls were declared missing ? My thoughts are with all of you. Other is Higher Confidence 2848 270th St Readlyn, IA 50668 According to KWWL Channel 7, the other witness told police they saw the vehicle parked near the woods on the east side of the lake only a few hundred feet from where the bikes were found. On Monday afternoon, December 10, 2012, the Iowa State Medical Examiners Office confirmed the bodies found on Wednesday were those of Lyric Cook and Elizabeth Collins. Is that one that they describe with a noun, then they do it again? 103. She attended Kingsley Elementary School and was 10 years old. Look at those two charges! Its sad. I saw the post about these two girls and wondered if there might have been an update. She enjoyed going on vacations and had traveled to many places. I am not dan or misty I am my own person I have nothing to do with meth or people who do . Its so close to Highway 20 its hard to believe someone snatched them from the trail. My friends ex husband has a number of employees, he once had a public works position in XXXXXXXX and most of her family now works at XXXXXXXX. But, it is one piece of the pie. Through the years she has often suggested we take a tour of Evansdale so she could show me Meyers Lake, Angels Park, and where the girls lived and so forth. I think Klunder is probably the perpetrator of this crime. Community members held a candlelight vigil Wednesday night at Meyers Lake at the same spot where theyd set up a makeshift memorial after the girls disappeared in July. I pray someone comes forward. Lyric and Elizabeth were in IA. Listen asshole, do you have any idea who you were just a smartass to? At first, investigators werent 100 percent sure whether the girls disappearance was accidental or criminal, so cadaver dogs and infrared aircraft were brought to the lake as well. I am reading conflicting reports. Lots of people in Iowa are on meth. Scott Medhaug was staying at Debra Kings. I want the vile sick and evil person(s) caught and removed from hurting g any other children forever. I think most of us have read about Lyric Cook, 10 years old and Elizabeth Collins, 8 years old. Im easily manipulated and often lied to but I try yo be honest as I can and not use others toward my own personal gains or demand to get my own beliefs and opinions forced on others. Lyric was a very special young lady. Libby's dad was into Meth Lyrics dad was into Meth. Their bikes and Elizabeths purse were later found on a trail on the southeast corner of Meyers Lake about 4 p.m. the same day the girls went missing, but there were no clues as to their whereabouts. I cant believe something so heinous took place in a small town. I can pass your name and info to them so they can contact you, since you know the facts. XXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 Two witnesses said theyd seen the white SUV parked between two bike trail signs. Abby Libby is on Facebook. XXXXXXX sent December 7, 2020 computer crimes. Memorial services were held Thursday, December 13, 2012 at 5 p.m. at the Heartland Vineyard Church, 1405 Greenhill Rd., in Cedar Falls. Five months later on December 5th, 2012, hunters in the Seven Bridges Wildlife Area stumbled across two bodies, smaller in stature and appearing to be female. My pet theory is that Evansdale and Delphi are connected. Not when were discussing the double homicide or two young girls in the same region a few hours apart as rare as this occurrence is. Im a 56 year old woman and have been following this case for some time. They could not have known all of this. Jim Newton the Detective working that case then showed me the pictures that could not be used in evidence. Smock said they want to speak with anyone who is familiar with the wildlife area which was formerly a Bremer County park and a popular gathering place in order to eliminate them as suspects. He denied this possibility. I also often wonder how they were able to rule him out. Both occurred in tiny rural towns. But most likely drug money and prison time. Jeff Altmayer, 58, was charged with trying to entice children in Jasper, Monona and Grundy County by offering them $100 to get in his van. The FBIs Behavioral Analysis Unit, which develops profiles of suspects, had released new details drawn from the FBI study and unveiled those conclusions on the Evansdale police web page for Lyric and Elizabeth, the Courier said. Sounds simple enough but his families are also tied into the local drug trade. For misappropriation of law enforcement resources. But they sadly just had almost nothing to work with. Her dog, Gus, also attended the graveside service and was decorated with a rose. I was following this case and was SO hoping theyd be found and thats theyd be okay. My friend said that her grown daughter came over and burst into tears and shared that R. Fitz had tried to molest her when she was a child. Even though it is remote there is a High School less than 2 miles north of the 7 Bridges Wildlife area. Related: 9 Real-Life Kidnapping Stories That Still Haunt Us. 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