658 following. We already know who our relatives are. says that he was born in Virginia, moved to North Carolina with his mother, and in May, 1785 at the age of 16 or 17 was forced to serve in the War by a step-father named Fielder. Mrs. WATTS maiden name was Elizabeth MILLER. News personality. Heather, I will be glad to remove it, but I am not sure which one is yours. Very interesting stuff! Most of my ancestors are from Tennessee. Can the blogger please remove my comment? Daughter of Wilson Miller, a Muskogee (Creek) and Nancy Toney, a Cherokee. Youll get hints when we find information about your relatives. It couldn't have been the Vanns could it? I believe William should be detached from Wurteh. One of my Dad's cousins applied for tribal membership and received it. Can be reach at james.swords@cox.netYour most Humble & Obt. . Trader was born in 1720, in Bowling Green, Caroline, Virginia, USA. DNA and a paper trail have proved that the mother of the two children who supposedly belonged to Blue Sky (Littleberry & Charity) belonged to a white woman who was mostly Irish and English. CVCC announces President's List for Fall 2022. James' son, my 2x-gfa emigrated on the TOT to IT, where my g-gfa, my gfa, my dad and I and my sons were born. . I already consider myself Cherokee, but would love to officially sign up. I do not know to put this together to prove it. She and Joseph are my 4x-grands. The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. But Cornblossom is one of those internet myths. Hey bro, if you do your own research and study based truthful and factual info than you would see that isnt even real. Early in my research on ancestry.com I came across "Captured Cherokee Woman" and I could tell you her name if I was where I could get to my Ancestry.com app but, can't right now. I have a lot of information about our trees if you'd like to contact me at zevranroman@yahoo.com. Malachi was born in 1813 in Georgia and died in 1864 in Cane Hill, Arkansas. She married Parker Vincent Adkins. watts-figueroa christina weinberg denise west lucinda westbrook tabitha white jeffrey wheeler hamden There is no single roll of those who participated in the 1838 forced removal known as the Trail of Tears. My last post. Chief Stout Man "Young Peter" Cornstalk. Of the . CAN YOU PLEASE SHARE TO KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COM. For a complete explanation, go to http://www.parkeradkins.wordpress.com, this is very interesting.i have been researching my family on ancestry.com and as i have always known i was of indian descent, i just recently discovered i am related to amatoyoa moytoy,ka na fire, sookie ?, i have not been able to trace back any further,but maybe someone out there can be of assistance. Was your grandfather by chance from the Roby Community in Chester County, TN 38340 or surrounding area? He seems to base his claim on the fact that Bob Benge, Sequoyah, and Talonteskee, known to be related, all lived in the same town at one point. Maybe but my relatives still live in West Virginia that comes step by step of going to the moytoy. Perhaps this can help you find what you are looking for. Elizabeth Watts's income source is mostly from being a successful . Pam chatty_devine@yahoo.com, I believe I am 11th generation descendent of Chief Moytoy. Elizabeth Watts, also known as "Wurte" Watts, was the supposed mixed-blood daughter of John Watts, a British government interpreter [known as "Old Forked Tongue Watts"], who died in 1770. James and his mother also descend from several of the old Cherokee warriors you noted in your vitriolic post, as do I, so if anyone should be ashamed, it's not me for my ancestors, but you for spreading ignorant, easily debunked lies. "Wurteh" Elizabeth Watts(Gist) BENJE, daughter of Chief Great Eagle and woman Ani Wadi, is my 6th great-grandma on my mom's side. . Robert Due [[Due-74]]: No source is listed for this claim. I hate all the arguing on here. Through these weekly appearances and her extensive experience hosting Infomercials, she has honed her craft in the exciting world of Live Television and Direct Response. My grandmother on my fathers side told me her grandmother was full Cherokee. Thomas 'married' the mixed blood daughter of Col. James Moore, SC Gov, and when he died, Mary Moore Ayres, his wife, gave their son to the White half brother, John Ayres. The senior Watts, father of Young Tassell, served as the official British government Indian interpreter for the area until his death in 1779. I really am trying to clean up my visible Internet life and found this when I googled myself years later. according to the information in the tree Sookie Grass Hopper Moytoy was the mother of Elizabeth and had married William David McDaniel. I am a citizen of the Cherokee Nation. Also, if someone can provide the same type of solid sources on her husband, John Hester's mother, proving that his mother, Sarah Thomas Cherokee (b. jeudi 8 novembre 1979, Journaux, Ottawa :[Le droit],1913- . Watts moved with the band downriver to Running Water Town, still in Tennessee but further from the frontier. Cat Vann - My Great Grandmother married a Vann and my ancestors are John Vann and Agnes Weatherford. Hi Relatives!!! Now my question is , is this Ga Ho Ga related to Amatoya Moytoy {1649-1710}? Tommy Wright (R-Victoria) Del. Watts was seriously wounded, and Siksika (known as "The Shawnee Warrior," and an older brother of Tecumseh)); Tahlonteeskee (also called Talotiskee of the Broken Arrow, a Muscogee warrior); Little Owl (a brother of Dragging Canoe); and Pumpkin Boy (a brother of Doublehead), all died in the encounter.[4]. KARYNBISHOF10@GMAIL.COMh, Rosemary G would you email me a copy of you ancestry.com your proof of Moytoy existing, please and do you know of any marriage or birth certificates of any Moytoy existing? The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma, The Eastern Band of Cherokees in North Carolina and the United Keetowah Band in Oklahoma. Moytoy pigeon of tellico had a daughter ani-ga-tage-wi moytoy whom married John Joseph Vann, they had a daughter Mary ottertail whom married 6x great grandfather Henry McGee. Rebecca Goode Rebecca E Hensley Rebecca Watts Rebecca Elizabeth Watts Rebecca E Watts Becky Goode Rebecca Hensley Becky E Goode Relatives: Mother, father, . Chief Benge's father was Jphn Benge, a white trader who lived with the Indians for most of his adult life. I know it run through my moms side but having trouble finding the information I need. White Wing married Elijah Adkins. My gggg grandfather is Old Hop-Standing Turkey- Kanagatuckco. Not even from my documented Chambers line because my GGrandFather refused to sign up on the Dawes, even though my GGrandMother Ada B Allen spoke for him in her Dawes packet. Mother Vann, Wah-li/Polly, is my documented 4x-grandmother. I am a documented Cherokee Nation citizen with connections to myriad ancestors "alleged" to be descendants of the Moytoys, but I would never claim it because it's IMPOSSIBLE to prove. I couldn't help but notice that Amotoya's wife and me had the same name.. I would think that would be a HUGE fraud on the Ancestry.Com people, Thank you so much. Teach us what a real Cherokee is, please. Remember to check the name spelling and include any additional information you have. Shawnees had already had at least 150 years of euro-white contact by the time Thomas showed up as a trader. I've heard only sketchy tales of being related to Attacullaculla (mostly because my father's parents died when he was young so he didn't get much family history passed down to him.) I am very glad to have found this site. All the info I have matches, and I learned even more of the story. I am positive tho that I am descendant of Moytoy's grandaughter White Wing "big Nancy" Cornstalk, d.o. I would love some help from any one . All documented. Elizabeth Watts Red Paint Clan Cherokee passed away on 1795 in St Joseph River, Crow Creek Settlement, Arkansas. Other than Cheerokee chief? Try Elizabeth "Quatsey" Betsy McDaniel whom was married to James Thomas Essary. If you have direct family members listed on The Dawes Rolls would that confirm blood lines? I"m a Cherokee citizen thru Caleb Starr Thompson on the Dawes Roll.My question is the info on this website about the relatives past Nancy Ward clear back to the "Moytoy of Tellico". I am also a descendent and am on a path to trace heritage since my deceased mother had set out to do. For the sake of his old friend, Corntassel arranged for Susan's passage to Indian Territory on a later trip across the Trail and married . Many of them falsely or naively claim Moytoy as an ancestor because they, too, have seen fictitious family trees online. amatoya moytoy was a realitive of my grandmother. Do you have a relative on the Dawes Roll, Shadow? He was never married to a Mary at all. She was born in 1832. Watts led his first major action of the Cherokee-American wars in 1786 against the forces of the State of Franklin over their incursions into the territory of the Overhill Cherokee. There are plenty of federally recognized white people among the Cherokee. Does anyone have any information of direct descendants of Moytoy I or II that are on the Dawes Final Rolls? yes, I know this name. !I am LowreyMajor George Lowrey & Lucy Benge are where my family take off begins where we are relatedOh how our ancestors would love to know we are all here, that they are here in usShelly in California. 578 posts. Catherine was of Cherokee lineage and had several family members on the Trail to OK. Any information you may have would be very helpful. Don't have a clue what all that means? Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians (1824-present), Cherokee Nation in Indian Territory (18391907), United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians (1939present), This page was last edited on 30 December 2022, at 05:30. My 10g grandmother is Nancy Ward. He became war council head, or "skiagusta," of the Lower Cherokee.[3]. Elizabeth said she was born June 15, 1848 in Monroe County, Tennessee and that her parents Hiram Goad and Eliza Jane Nickolson Goad were living there in 1851. Easy, he was selling off Cherokee lands. Elizabeth Watts in Colorado. My father was Kenneth Ward (son of Edward Ward and nephew of Martin Ward; he was born in Nashville, TN). Cat Vann, I am related to amatoya moytoy chota, agustin chota is one of my great grandmothers through my great grandmother birdie hazel rogers if you have asny more info i would really car to know. I share your first few ancestors! I know grandfather is Tecumseh. My new email address is ol_man_emu@bigpond.com. The individual regional councils for each of the major Cherokee geographic divisions still dominated decisions in their relative areas. This is a magnificent summary of all the research youve done, Kathie! . Query: My great great grandmother, Elizabeth Floyd, married a Cherokee man, name unknown. Elizabeth Watts Age. In October 1788, following the murder of his uncle Old Tassel by frontiersmen, Watts led a large war party into North Carolina's Washington District (now Tennessee). IF SO USING WHAT NAME AND LINE OF LINEAGE? you can reach me at karynbishof10@gmail.comthank you so much! So DNA isn't going to tell you if you're Indian or not. She studied archaeology at Sheffield University and graduated with first class honours. Only original work can be copyrighted. 124 confirmed names, back to chief moytoy yet not accepted.if you have anything to help you can email me at karynbishof10@gmail.com, Hello, (very distant) cousin. I have sent a message to the man that seems to have been the first to add this information to his tree as everyone after him, was traced back to him. How can all these cousin be wrong. its a frustrating process and seems to be a dead end. The bio says , William Dorton Sr. became a man of local prominence, and a captain of the Russell Co. Amatoya Moytoy of Chota (pronounced mah-tie) was a Cherokee town chief of the early eighteenth century in the area of present-day Tennessee. Chief was born in 1726, in Bowling Green, Caroline, Virginia, USA. Even the Troxel(sp?) What is so astonishing is that my mother is descended from Mary Moore Ayres and John Amory while my father is descended from Mary and Thomas Ayres! I've been researching the Moytoy line for some time. i am james barry stricklin of savannah,tn and i am a desendant of cheif moytoy and granny hopper through thomas essary to minnie essary ,but i nee help with this please send an e-mail to hardinco2000@yahoo.com and tell me how im kin. Were the Carpenters traders from England or not? Call us at (858) 263-7716. I believe that Amatoya Moytoy I is my 10th great grandfather through his son Kanagatoga AKA ((Old Hop), ("Standing Turkey), (Cunne Shote) Moytoy but only if Conaleuski AKA Robert John Challange Wilson is his grandson (Amatoya MOytoy I grandson) I found it somewhere that he was the next line if so I would like to know how to become a card carrying member of one one the Cherokee tribes. Bluesky's father was Shawnee Chief Cornstalk. Elizabeth Watts Salary. How could this be if these people above say his father is/was from England? WELL we all Know what that started. family that started the story of Cornblossom & Yalloh Falls was a made up story. Please, be our brothers and sisters that we have been denied. There is ZERO documentation for this man. Historically, surnames evolved as a way to sort people into groups - by occupation, place of origin, clan affiliation, patronage, parentage, adoption, and even physical characteristics (like red hair). I have information back to my great great grandmother and found her parents names once but haven't been able to find them since but the line went back to Pidgeon of Tellico and further back to Motoy(s). So, how much is Elizabeth Watts worth at the age of 43 years old? Militia. These ships were small and fast, often able to make the crossing from Scotland and Ireland in less than thirty days. william r kirkland(part shawnee)I am proud of my new found heritage. 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